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  • 4BT into toyota pickup?

    what do you guys think of getting the cummins 4bt 3.9L inline 4 into a toyota pickup? that'd be pretty badass.
    79 hilux 4x4 cab + running gear onto 88 4wd sas
    http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9337997
    http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4108

  • #2
    http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showt...hlight=cummins

    http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showt...hlight=cummins
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Akroyd_Stuart

    So, why do we call it a "Diesel" when he didn't invent it?

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    • #3
      i understand that theyre heavy, but bigger motors are more durable, and it's made in america, so the parts will be easier to obtain. 25+mpg on a heavy vehicle would be like 30mpg on a 3,000 LB singlecab shortbed.
      79 hilux 4x4 cab + running gear onto 88 4wd sas
      http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9337997
      http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4108

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      • #4
        Yea just mate it to your g54 trans and you are all set. Oh and let us know how you handled the weight, hight to crank centerline, cooling, Weight, cost of the rebuild, weight ect. Pictures would be nice too.

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        • #5
          I havent heard anyone mating a 4bt with a g54. I just bought a w56. I'm not going to be able to afford a diesel any time soon but im just checking all my options and i want something that nobody else has done :)
          79 hilux 4x4 cab + running gear onto 88 4wd sas
          http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9337997
          http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4108

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          • #6
            almost everything from a 6bt can be done to a 4bt. I heard someone had over 300HP from a 4bt. If i were to get one of these engines, and keep it stock for the time being, during the time i own it, i'll get the HP and torque up :)
            79 hilux 4x4 cab + running gear onto 88 4wd sas
            http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9337997
            http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4108

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            • #7
              sure mate it to your W56

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              • #8
                I have heard of people putting them into Toyotas but really they are too big and heavy. Yotatech as a thread called Cummins Swap. Not sure where it is but they had a good long dicussion on there about it as well. I still think putting in a properly sized Toyota motor that was desinged just for these trucks is the way to go. With a standard cab shortbox I wouldn't use the 1kzte because I think a 2LT would push it along fine. And by the time you are done getting everything just right with the Cummins you will more than likely have spent more on it than you would putting a Toy diesel in. And it wont look nearly as nice and probably wont perform all that much better. Sure it will have lots of power and torque but why do you need huge amounts in a small pickup? When I have the right gearing in my truck I'm sure I'll be able to hit 100mph fairly easy. No need to be going faster than that. I just think that these motors work great in these trucks and were made to fit right into these trucks. Why not use them.

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                • #9
                  I would go with a 5 cyl Mercedes before the 4bt. Not only is it big and heavy, it also is only good for 2400 rpm and has around 300 ft lbs of torque. That all meens that you will need heavy trans and tcase to hold up to the strain and you will not have a long rpm range if you need to rev it up in gear. They are better suited for heavy duty applications like a full sized truck that will be loaded down or tow heavy loads for long distances.
                  1948 Willys extended to 100" WB, 1KZTE all Toyota running gear. Marlin Crawler dual cases, ARB's, onboard welder and air.

                  Bla, bla, bla

                  Making of the Willy Mammoth http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=6472.0

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Willy Mammoth View Post
                    I would go with a 5 cyl Mercedes before the 4bt. Not only is it big and heavy, it also is only good for 2400 rpm
                    thanks guys. im just looking around at my options. Arent parts for a mercedes expensive? I thought RPMs were mainly based on your gearing. If i was using the tranny from a breadvan as well, then maybe that'd be the case, right?

                    if i got a 2lt, it wouldn't get to 100MPH, though.
                    Last edited by KX250Erick; 11-02-2007, 10:01 PM.
                    79 hilux 4x4 cab + running gear onto 88 4wd sas
                    http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9337997
                    http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4108

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                    • #11
                      The bigest problem is there isn't much to choose from. Either it is small and under powered or it is too big and heavy.

                      I think the 1kzt-e is your best choice all around. they are small lighter and have good power. Plus they can turn up to 5000 rpm.
                      1948 Willys extended to 100" WB, 1KZTE all Toyota running gear. Marlin Crawler dual cases, ARB's, onboard welder and air.

                      Bla, bla, bla

                      Making of the Willy Mammoth http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=6472.0

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                      • #12
                        I just had mine out up in west Virgina in the mountians and with the 38" tires and 4.88 gears it was doing 70 + and coming out of the turns at 30 in 4th gear it would power up to 50 in less than 10 seconds or so.

                        I am very pleased with the preformance.

                        Here is a quick clip of the first test drive.
                        http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/a...t=093ac216.flv
                        Last edited by Willy Mammoth; 11-02-2007, 10:29 PM.
                        1948 Willys extended to 100" WB, 1KZTE all Toyota running gear. Marlin Crawler dual cases, ARB's, onboard welder and air.

                        Bla, bla, bla

                        Making of the Willy Mammoth http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=6472.0

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                        • #13
                          My dads Case 1845C skid steer has the Cummins 4B motor, just to give you an idea how heavy and industrial oriented it is. It also came in the Case 580 backhoe, along with the turbo version. It is way too heavy for a toyota, being it weighs about 745lbs wet. I think that it is best to use toyota engines in toyotas. It just makes service and swaps much easier. Every year from 1979 to 1995 has an overseas diesel version, and the later tacoma uses the same frame width with the 3rd gen 4runner/ hilux surf, so there is a diesel version of that. It also pays off to find the cleanest vehicle (with no rust, clean body, paint, and interior, and preferably low miles)you can to put the diesel into, because it doesnt make sense to spend 3-5K on the half cut, put many man hours into doing the engine swap, just to have a $5,000 motor in a $500 rust bucket beater. IMO, Probably the best vehicle to do a diesel swap on is the 2nd gen 4runner V6(90-95) or the 3rd gen pickup V6(89-95). These are usually well looked after and are in pretty good shape, and can be had for a good price(sometimes in the $900-1500 range) when the awful v6 blows its head gasket. When I do my engine swap, I will probably use a 2nd gen 4runner.
                          1993 volvo 850, 1979 Ford F-250, 1984 Honda XL200R

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                          • #14
                            thanks so much guys for the feedback. I'm gonna do the 1kzte when the time is right.
                            79 hilux 4x4 cab + running gear onto 88 4wd sas
                            http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9337997
                            http://toyotadiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4108

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                            • #15
                              dont wait to long!!

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